Well it starts off like this.
https://auspost.com.au/business/ecommerce/online-marketplaces/selling-to-china
Selling to China
Got an authentic Aussie product and the courage to think big? Try setting up shop in China's largest online marketplaces.
Set up shop with us
Quality Australian-made products are in high demand. And yours might be a great addition to our Australia Post storefronts.
What they're buying
Online shoppers in China tend to be health-conscious and prepared to pay a little more when sourcing premium products from overseas.
Popular product categories include:
health products and supplements
cosmetics and skincare
maternity and baby products
milk powder
organic food and wine
Where you'll be selling
We've teamed up with some of China's most-trusted eCommerce marketplaces to put your product in front of hundreds of millions of online shoppers.
Tmall Global
China's biggest online business-to-consumer marketplace - and it's growing fast.
Visit us on Tmall
JD Worldwide
Second-largest online business-to-consumer marketplace in China.
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1688
Largest business-to-business marketplace. Like Tmall, it's backed by Alibaba.
Visit us on 1688
5 reasons to set up shop with us
Get easy access to China's booming eCommerce marketplaces
Build trust with Chinese shoppers by partnering with an international brand
Leap the language barrier with help from our translation team
Know how to price your products for the Chinese market
Get help managing customers returns and refunds
See how the partnership works
When you register your interest, we'll respond to let you know if your product's a good fit for our storefronts. If so, here's how we'll work together:
You sign a service agreement with us
You provide product info and photos
We get you set up on our storefronts
Your customers order and pay online
We translate their order into English
You ship the order with us
Your customer confirms they got it
Tmall, 1688 or JD pay us, then we pay into your bank account
Getting started
Seller conditions: does your business tick these boxes?
Australian retailer or manufacturer
Registered in Australia
Product/range made and trademarked in Australia
Prepared to invest in building your brand in China
If so, get in touch …
Tell us a few details about your business and we'll go from there.
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Then they tie you in with INVESTORS.. Investors... investors....
And then we get into this.
The Mass Exodus of Foreigners from China
https://youtu.be/HrzJcnK_c-4
And during the video they suggest doing this Google Search:
"Why I left China"
The people who run Reddit can cordially go fuck themselves but this is an interesting read.
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/43z511/left_china_an_endless_list_of_things_in_china/
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/02/why-foreign-companies-are-shutting-shop-in-china.html
US Companies Are Beginning to Leave China https://youtu.be/1GQlBy90nOQ
And this one.....
China's Geography Problem https://youtu.be/GiBF6v5UAAE
So in respect to the issues of Geo-Politics there are enormous amounts of bullshit going on in ALL directions from ALL sides... And indeed there is also a great amount of truth in amongst it all, despite the usual fear mongering bullshit from the media, and the government backers driving it....
This is an issue - well I can't comment on all the complexity and history of it all... and there is a lot of imperialistic shit from all sides, including the British seizing the opium trade etc.
Putting all of this aside, and sticking to the very simple issues - is it a good thing for people who have a viable product, to go into business, exporting product to China, via Australia Post.
I really think you NEED a thoroughly documented business plan.
I think you MUST know your target market.
Then we get into ITEMS per month sent, in terms of theft, missing in transit, broken and damaged deliveries, things that were sent and tracked to a major depot and then it never left the country etc., when using Australia Post, where is the cripple your business point and where is the suck up the costs and losses and keep going area? And the combined overheads and losses - can you afford to carry the damage to your business and reputation?
Then we get into the fact that this whole issue ties into Australia Post.....
Hmmmm.
You + Your exports + Going BY Australia Post to China.... AND?
Shit... so if package number one, arrives in China, all broke up.... (Australia Post Postage Costs?)
Or it doesn't arrive at all...... Probably didn't even get out of the country.....
Then you have to send out package number two....... (Australia Post Postage Costs?)
When Australia Posts idiot management, have been killing off small business with gusto and aplomb, by pricing them and family owned businesses out of the market;
When it costs more to send things to the next suburb, than it does to get things sent from the other side of the planet;
Or it costs $20 to get it sent here, and $130 to send it back......
And then there are ALL the other issues.
I'd be very circumspect about doing any business with or via Australia Post....
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Well, Well, Well........
There were about 18 - 20 people signed up to do the course.....
I signed up for the course of course, and I opened up with this comment in the forums...
How come this has all the sucky social media BS like, "Likes" etc..
I am not saying this is good or bad, but it's much like the meat slicer and the fat chick in the delicatessen.. Slicing up the ham... A slice for the customer, on the front stroke and a slice for me, on the back stroke - she says. Obviously it's not bad to take a well earned slice of profit for delivering the product, but it's the amount of profit for the amount of value or product delivered. To me so far, it looks like an awful lot of fat chicks in the delicatessen, trying to get a slice of my sausage... There does not seem to be any real producers, only taxation stations in between myself (in Australia) and the speculatively intended recipient (in China).
And when this course is amortised across many many many people, it looks pretty cheap to run and with potentially enormous amounts of profit to be had by the people and companies with their hands out in the middle.
And also with Australia Post's inept management, essentially pricing small and family owned business's out of the market inside Australia by making them unable to compete on shipping costs within Australia, relative to the prices they charge for large order customers, and also which is totally non competitive with free to dirt cheap imports by mail from China, how exactly does this stack up, when sending things to China via Australia Post?
For instance I can get a pair of shoes from the USA or the UK for $20 postage, but it costs $135 to send them back.
And how come no one is vetting the ethics of the intermediaries like the commonwealth bank - and the people who run that?
And one of the things I am seeing now in China - is that for the last few years there has been a huge exodus of foreigners leaving China.....
This program seems to be swimming against the tide of the general consensus of that issue.
So while the sweet memories of the 1950's white Australia Policy of the good kids sticking up their hands and saying, "Oh Pick Me, Pick Me" (teacher) and getting the assignments in on time, there is nothing fact based and up front about any of these more fundamental issues from the very beginning."
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Guess What Happened Next?
Forgot your password?
No, but lets reset it anyway.
The email to reset it never arrived....
"Oh my......!"
LOL
2 Daze Later......
(with some 20 odd people doing the course - Vankalotz Wifa Phingas must have a lot of free time on her hand)
You have been suspended from the C3 Forum
You have been temporarily suspended from posting on the China Canvas Challenge forum.
A recent post you have made has been flagged as inappropriate.
Please be mindful of other participants on the forum and please keep all discussions relevant to the course.
If you believe a mistake has been made, please contact us immediately to resolve this issue.
Best regards,
Vankalotz Wifa Phingas
The reply:
Dear Vankalotz - go fuck yourself.
(Fucking LOL x 10 million.... )
What a bullshit low IQ thing she wrote.....
Brief analaysis...
"You have been suspended" x 1.
"You have been temporarily suspended" x 2 with no start or end date.
"The only post I made was flagged as inappropriate" - well tough shit, and by who's measuring stick. I wrote it and to me it is entirely appropriate (princess shit for brains) because I want the explination and the pricing structure up front, before I decide to hire you. I also want to discuss the other issues I have raised. And FAT chicks in the deli - if you eat too much, and you eat refined white flour based shit with lots of sugar, and don't exercise enough - you get FAT... And if some chick is 165cm tall and 140Kg - and work in the deli - you ARE the fat chick in the deli... so since when does SEEING it and not saying it, make it right and seeing it and saying it make it wrong. As far as the conveyance of the issue about all the intermediaries between myself and my prospective customers, they MIGHT be there to be helpful but ONLY if it profits them. So how much of a profit can I make, and how much will all the intermediaries want to be paid for their efforts? Hence the analogy of all the fat chicks in the deli, wanting to take a slice of my sausage on the way through.
Globally there is a massive obesity epidemic.
Maybe it's the fact that this shit show is putting a fucking feminist retard in the position of umpire - when she should be slapped and kicked out on the street where shit heads like that belong, is a demonstration of the IDIOTS who are running this shit show.
Enjoy your impending unemployment, dildos and cats.
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Jesus shit... Australia Post have REALLY sold themselves forward on this one, haven't they.
National advertising and 20 people turn up....
LOL
And they have some smarmy politically correct cunt lecturing and censoring the attendees....
Oh fucking too funny.....
😆
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To be fair though, the old guy from Haymarket HQ did a very good job of what is a program based upon building a business plan and following it through with great detail....
But they are not saying anything about the dodginess and costs of dealing with ones partners.
Australia Post CAN be a real problem.... Theft, breakage, failure to deliver etc.. Insurance, tracking, delays, having to resend etc., bullshit customer service.,
China is awash with "contacts" and the national economy runs on FAKES, counterfeits and knock-offs.....
Youtube:
Search using this term. Fakes industries china
Watch this documentary - it's really frightening. Drugs in the local hospital = faked antibiotics and toxic shit...
Chinese Fake Trillion Dollars Counterfeiting Business Special Documentary
https://youtu.be/b285ALhFNms
This is why people exporting things to China are invested so heavily in traceability, to stop forgeries, fakes and substitution.
And buying up all the baby formula in Australia - that is not based on how marvellous Australian product is, it's because the parents are frightened shitless of poisoning their own kids with the faked baby formula in China.....
For instance - Alibaba used to have a fucking plague of stupid cunts on it, who when I made an inquiry, about a specific item, or product type, they would put me on their automatic list of 10,000 pieces of shit, that had NOTHING to do with what I was after, and the scam artists... "Yeah sure we can send you one, but can you send us a $200 cash deposit on a $100 item, by Western Union money order...." Yeah Ali-Baba was full of dim witted cunts like that. And the management would do NOTHING about them.
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Maybe the clever feminist and her team were just too awesome.
The cuck helps the idiot out...
Good One Mangina!
You get to take the booby prize home with you.
(Actually from the deepest recesses of my memory, I think this is a comedy sketch, because he gets a squirt of water, and he is paying no attention to the person off to the left who is doing the pumping - behind the post or near the cameraman.. and the camera shot is very confined and people actually walk around the ends of the gate - you can see the space to do it and the wear paths in the gravel, and there is the space to ride around each end of the gate. The looping GIF gives it all away.)
Yeah.... Smacks of Cheap
In terms of investing much in the cost of the prizes.
BUT - IF the old white man running Hay Marketing, has selected the books, the value of the prizes is not in the "cost" of the books, it's in the content of the books and what you can do with them.
Never underestimate the value of a decent book.
And given his level of articulation, focus and logicity, IF he selected the books, I think he may have tried to pick really good books.
You get to take the booby prize home with you.
(Actually from the deepest recesses of my memory, I think this is a comedy sketch, because he gets a squirt of water, and he is paying no attention to the person off to the left who is doing the pumping - behind the post or near the cameraman.. and the camera shot is very confined and people actually walk around the ends of the gate - you can see the space to do it and the wear paths in the gravel, and there is the space to ride around each end of the gate. The looping GIF gives it all away.)
Yeah.... Smacks of Cheap
In terms of investing much in the cost of the prizes.
BUT - IF the old white man running Hay Marketing, has selected the books, the value of the prizes is not in the "cost" of the books, it's in the content of the books and what you can do with them.
Never underestimate the value of a decent book.
And given his level of articulation, focus and logicity, IF he selected the books, I think he may have tried to pick really good books.
Victoria Chung, however, can go fuck herself.
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